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unusual. the new >> defense from trump world to avoid paying his half $1 bond. >> i have a former temperature attorney with me to try to make the case also tonight, the dnc prepares for war with third party candidates and one of them, 20 tonight, i'm laura coates live all right. >> can you imagine what must be going on and donald? trump's head tonight? i mean, he's got five. just count them five days to come up with nearly half 1 billion and a bond, and he has civil fraud case in new york. and so far, insurance companies who could back that bond are sending his calls the voicemail. >> the >> last thing the field of gop nominee want the world to see is the allegedly multi-billion-dollar man would ever who actually might be worth going perhaps hatton hand are selling properties like his namesake trump tower for bargain basement prices because make no mistake. the new york a jaylen should james, she has
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zero sympathy, maybe even negative $464 million worth of sympathy. >> but >> now there are rumblings in the trump world that the only numbers he wants the appeals court to hear and pay attention to is the number eight as in the eighth amendment, which reads feeds excessive bail shall not be required nor excessive fines imposed, nor the part you probably know best cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. if that phrase, the earlier one, excessive find that seems to really caught trump's attention. >> i mean, >> really, i mean, so much so that he whipped out a copy of it during a fox town hall just last month >> i wrote this app because it was so it was so great i just looked at people call up all of your friends, the lawyers call up, they say it's the most egregious punishment anybody's ever seen. tim scott knows that he says the ancient amendment excessive bail shall not be required nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual
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punishment inflicted. >> that's the eighth amendment. >> excessive fines it is indeed from his mouth to trump world's ears, because all of this, i didn't feel like everybody is talking about the eighth amendment there are supposed to be no excessive fines and cruel and unusual punishment is constitutional, right? >> as i understand it the eighth amendment says, no cruel or unusual punishment and no large fines or outright excessive fines. >> it is unconscionable that we're even here, but i think the eighth amendment is certainly play >> maybe it's time for him to go to federal court on this eighth amendment claim. so that he gets some kind of repose or something that gives them the chance to hold on for a minute. >> now let me remind you of a key phrase in the amendment, cruel and unusual punishment. usually you hear that part of the amendment when you think about the death penalty or other punishments, not only a billionaire who's been found
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to have engaged in fraud like schemes to trick banks into thinking. there's assets were worth far more than they actually were. here's what all this now forward top attorney tim parlatore, i'm so glad that you're with me here today because get out your law textbooks and refresh recollection about what it all is the excessive fines portion of it. now, when you look at this, you've actually said that it is in play here and it does apply to civil cases talking by excessive fines. but do you think it really does apply in a case like this where the judge seems to have lined it up, not through punitive damages, but almost the compensatory line for line of these so-called in gut and gate gil gotten gains i think that it is something that you have to at least raise and the bond is kind of a separate issue, but the substantive >> appeal here. and i think it's something that you by using a us constitutional amendment is something that you can bring it up to the top of new york and then over to the us supreme court on this exact
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issue. the first question is, does it even apply to a civil case like this >> and >> generally is applied primarily to criminal cases. and so i think that that is something that's unsettled right now. and so the court could look at that and say whether it does or doesn't well, the courts have said that it can apply to civil cases for excessive fines, but they seem to be pretty clear on the parameters incentive. is it proportional to what the person has done wrong? correct. who is the defendant or the person before them in terms of their means and obviously is this meant to just be punitive and punishment in nature, right and when you look at this case, you know, the victim in this case, deutsche bank, they made money, they made a profit. they said it as a defense witness. we knew what the actual evaluation was we gave them alone anyway, he paid it back. you but they made their interest and so it is something where you don't really have any victim. nobody's out, any money and
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there are other cases where people are out money where you can actually tie the damages to somebody that's owed something. and let's remember here the money is not going back to the victim letitia james has not trying to get a half $1 billion. so she could get know. she's she's using it to bring it to the state. and so i think that because it is untethered to the victim, it's something that there is a very good argument on appeal to say that it is a fine and a punishment and not some type of a compensatory damages while the judge hasn't by this is victimless at all. the judge believes that and through his findings that in fact, there are victims in the sense of this being properly brought complaint against him. >> but i often >> hear at the heard this notion of kind of all's well, that ends well, right? if i'm not complaining thanks. so what's the big deal but you know, prosecutors all across the country are bringing case on behalf of the jurisdiction, not on behalf of the private plaintiff's attorney in that instance but this idea of the
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appeal, i mean, i know i hate to get into the weeds about this, but if. he did not preserve, they say preserve it on appeal, meaning preserve it at trial to raise this eighth amendment below before it gets the appellate court. they may not even look at this. do you know if he actually has preserved the right to breaking this particular issue? >> well, i think that when it comes to that issue, that's not something that an objection would have been raised down below the end until the very end once they get the judgment from from the judge during trial, you can't really raise that. i don't think that the eighth amendment issue is one that really they needs to be preserved on the record down below so much that's something that you would raise an a direct appeal because you're going directly from the judgment. >> he raising it now, that's the question. it just kinda twitter world >> the next world x world. >> yes, it's definitely something where everybody is presupposing can be brought because the appeal has process
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has barted. yeah. they're still at the bonds stage, so certainly they haven't filed the briefs. and so i would expect that this would be one of their major points on the appeal. but we are still guessing. i mean, it's i think it's an educated guess. it is going to raise it, but it is still a gas. >> well, you know, there is the notion of let's just say he's able to raise it the appellate court will look at this in some respect. is a clear error standard meeting. was there a miscalculation here did i add wrong as the lower court judge or are the arguments you're raising about the excessive fine going to come into play and how he applied that particular asset expect of it. >> but let's >> just say for a moment that james is able to collect that the appeals go all wrong trump is not the victor in the end how does she start to do it? because a lot of the things that he owned in real estate are not necessarily understand singularly owed by trump right? there are other people. and so if she then in line with creditors because he had to take away his assets, he leaves
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his share in the assets >> yeah, it does become very complicated that point. and so what you oftentimes do is if you have an asset that's cold funded with somebody else, you'll try to seize the asset, but then you have to work with that other party to offer them hey, do you want to buy out to own 100%? or do you want to sell your portion of it so that we own 100%? because i don't think any donald trump's business partners want to own a building with letitia james work together with them, but i would guess not tim, that's probably a good guess. >> it's complicated. it's complicated, but i still go back to proportionality aspect that because we'll talk about the eighth amendment and how it's so excessive you look at what you're actually been accused of having done, right? what is that amount and then you talk you tie it to particular aspects of it and you added it all up. he is suggesting it because it's been never been done before, that by virtue alone is going to make an excessive that's not going to hold enough water. >> you do have to have a
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rational basis to make these calculations. and just because a judge sat there and made calculations doesn't mean that it's right. and the fact that it hasn't been done before means that there's no precedent. there is no formula that judges would normally go to. i mean, how do you figure? you're out? what is the proper penalty in a case where the so-called victim made a profit out of it and so it's evaluation part, right? that's the issue. >> it is the evaluation part, but even there valuation is something that the victims said that they knew the true value of and so, you know, can you tie it to the valuation part of do you tie it to what the loss amount is i mean, in a ordinary very course, you have a fraud trial that's based on what is the actual loss to the victims and in the federal system, you have a very clear standard of it's the loss of the victims. and so if the victim gets partially pay back that has to be taken off, and so you do end up with a situation if it was
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in federal court where the rule say this would have been a essentially an attempted fraud with his loss amount of zero well, tisha james begs to defer that. this is something that did not have an issue or consequence particularly when it comes to fraudulent statements and beyond, we'll talk more. this is not going anywhere. he's pulling out of his pocket at the eighth amendment. you know, this has some kind of legs in an appeal. we'll see how far again. thank you, tim. >> thank you. >> now, i want to turn to congress where today is prime minister benjamin netanyahu address republican senators in a close door meeting, offering a rather blunt perspective on fracturing support for israel and issuing a warning on the war in gaza saying, quote, even if we have to go it alone, we will not stop so meeting today following senate majority leader chuck schumer's calling for netanyahu is removal. so how much of an issue is that congress has split on support for one of our closest allies
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and this nation, i want to bring in professor at cornell west who was running as an independent presidential candidate, professor west, very good to see you as always, how are you >> oh, where's the blessed? let's see since the lower straight out of and stan a year, but let's just say it was number one, they believe it that way. okay, professor, when we are asked you this question because i've an eager to talk to you about this. how how dangerous is this kind of division when it relates to israel and the approach to gaza and hamas for us interests when i think reflects just the level of not just polarization, but gangster position because we now >> have a political culture that's just dominated by lies and hatred and revenge. and we need some truth and some justice and some love and
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anytime you talk about how you relate to the plight of both jews on the one hand, they've been terrorized, traumatized with 2,500 years and palestinians on the other who happened now to be terrorized and traumatized by the israeli state. it's a very delicate in it's opened two explosive revenge, explosive eight. and so we've got to have a spiritual on the mall tone and talking about such a difficult moment we hear trump's engaging in that kind of ugly anti-jewish language. vicious attacks on liberal jews and jews and the democratic party. well, that's par for the course. we know he's a gangster. he's done this before. it's an echo in some ways of the american first committee that goes back and robert stewart june, he graduated from princeton 1937, was found the rub that enable charles lindbergh was there henry ford was there the latter two received 1938, the german eagle metal from handler henry
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ford is invoked in mind cough, hitler's texts in an app mobile way, hitler had a picture of henry ford and his office meaning what this is dangerous stuff. this is, this is organized hatred tie two the kind of politics that we have and we just need to be very honest about it. schumer made a very important move, pivot to move. but even schumer, he didn't really talk about the suffering of the palestinians. it was still very much about jews reminds me to convert the confessing church in germany, where they've talked about the christians in germany didn't say a mumbling word about the jews being attacked because they were concerned about the purity and the concern of just christians. thank god for dietrich bonhoeffer, he criticized that as a christian. most christians did not both moments, weimar germany america these days, whoo very, very grim, very dim as it were. and we just need some serious commitment to truth, justice,
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and loved are my data system. >> well >> and love, you are writing you to be a president at the press of the united states. and when you look at the difference responses and knowing the history as you have related in particular, what is the course correction? i mean, one of the things that you didn't mention about schumer's that he was calling to have elections new elections, not had netanyahu and control any longer. and certainly there's, there has been a history of united states calling on other nations to reconfigure their elections. but normally it's not a notable democracy what did that moment mean to you >> well, united states has a long history of interference and other people's government. >> 1953 in >> iran and guatemala and 64 in brazil, 65 dominican republic, we've got 075 moments where we intervene militarily and other country intervene rhetorically as schumer did, is a very different kind of thing. but you got to get to the root of
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the problems. what i would tell brother schumer, you're not going to get to the root of the problem unless you give it to palestinian suffering, you got the end, the occupation of course, you need seed for, of course, they the in the seat. you've got the end, the occupation, then we're never be precious jewels, safety and security predicated on occupation and domination. you've got to have palestinian and jewish dignity, palestinian and jewish equality, palestinian and jewish security and safety the law. that's a pie drink? yes, that's right. some of us are dreamers >> some of us are >> holding onto visions of true justice and love, no matter how and realistic it ears. but at least we got to tell the truth. that's the crucial thing. >> oh, professor speaking now, you may be talking about dreams. others have real estate fronts in their mind and thinking about a dream of development because professor west, jared kushner, we know it's trump's son-in-law and former senior advisor to talk about recently that the gaza
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waterfront could be quote very valuable. and he also blamed hamas for using aid meant to help them divide ammunition and build a tunnel network. >> when you >> heard those comments, what kind of message does that send to you? >> it was just you know, it's another example of the deep spiritual dk, the callousness, the outright outright, contempt that he has for the human beings who are suffering. he got the blood of the palestinian right there. especially the children in his thing about waterfront you say oh my god reminds me of literary giants, novel. philip ross is not with the plot against america was very much about jewish hatred neo fascism coe, hardness means spirits course and and what, what is the response for us not to become preoccupied with it? we've got to galvanize. our sales and others to be a
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countervailing force against this kind of hatred and revenge. and lives. and that's why i'm convinced that both parties are in many ways beyond redemption. i know that's radical claim for a lot of people, but the democratic party, the biden, had his chance to get at the fascist presence of a trump. but he couldn't do it. he couldn't speak the issues of poverty. he couldn't speak to this. is that working class strong enough. he couldn't support black voting even get a chance to even push through the john lewis be allotted to do it filibuster and put pressure on manchin he wouldn't do it. he said it wasn't a priority we use if you don't have that kind of backbone, then fascism was sooner or later take over an alternative to fascism is not some kind of milk toast moderation. you had to have an alternative vision alternative structures, alternative way of
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engaging the world and that's the sad moment that we're in. if all we have is buying in the face of this escalating organized greed and institutionalized atria, which is what neil fascism in part is really a big military, big business in the skate gold, the most vulnerable because you won't confront the most powerful that's trump's nail fastener project, right? and he's very honest about that. it's been >> consistent, professor >> i don't want to cut you off, excuse me. but when you talk about what the alternative, you think about the ways when you it's, it's due to be a trump biden matchup and i know you take issue with both the republican party and the democrats as well. both trump and biden you are running as an independent candidate and as i understand it, we've talked about, there's a disruptive nature that people assume that a third party candidate will have. and oftentimes they believe that a third party candidate will actually benefit the republican nominee more than it will benefit the democrat who is
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running the new york times actually is reporting today, professor at democrats are assembling a multi-state organization to tackle the threat of third-party candidates. i wonder what would it mean to you if you're run? was not successful for your own presidential bid and instead helped to elect donald trump well, i mean, one, as you know, 38% of our fellow citizens don't vote at all. i'm spending a lot of time with him to bring them in 62% of our fellow citizens who vote third or independent candidate, said he would never ever have a vote for biden for trump. but i just find it interesting. you get a democratic party with biden and harris. and they said you want to redeem the soul of the nation, then they enabled genocide in gaza. they want to save democracy, but want to cut off democratic voices. so that people don't have choices other than themselves and trump well, i come from a black folk is lift. every voice that's what democracy is about. it's
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about free speech is about people lifting their voices that biden can't make a case. people are not going to vote for him. he doesn't own anybody votes if trump can make a case, they are not two people won't vote for them if i make the case and they want to vote for me, why fight so hard to keep me off the ballot >> what's making up the balance >> is antidemocratic you are currently on the ballot in utah and alaska, oregon, south carolina, which states are you looking to >> get on the ballot next? >> oh shoot, we, we've already got a number of states that were basically on there just contesting the signatures right now. so we've worked that out, but we are on the move and my dear brother moved me. i build your mouth. let's say prison, but still with dignity, we are on the moon people thought we wouldn't, wouldn't get an holly any state we working on texas weather on new york, working on michigan, we were working across the country, but
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it's in a spirit of truth justice, and love. people who are so alien for american politics, yet don't say i'm not going to allow anything that pushed me in the gatera of hatred and revenge and lies? >> no, no, >> no, no, i come out of legacy of martin luther king, junior, fannie lou haber, rabbi heschel in edward xiii. we try to move to moral and spiritual height as we intervene into the dirty politics >> oh, well, that is a daunting prospect, but something tells me that with the syllabus is already in your brain. you'll be able to educate all along the way. cornell west professor, thank you so much as always louk you by dissonance to god bless you, and god bless your loved ones, your family >> very nice. if you say for you as well. thank you. and we have some news because just in tonight, there's new cnn reporting of who donald trump
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lives, cia secrets maori play. valerie plane for our play him. >> i was undercover. so when you're responding yeah. >> it's someone at the white house below the cover of a cia operative after her husband criticized the run-up to the war, where are the weapons of mass distraction exactly? >> this is the rear scandal that really mattered. >> lives were at stake. >> yes. my children. this is >> horrifying united states of scandal with jake tapper you episode sunday at nine on cnn >> a coronation at an honor, this is turns to questions of succession >> first, quality has to be somebody that you >> think will be good precedent it will be the handpick number to the air to trump's republican party tonight in the spirit of march. and all it's madness. >> laura coates live hi presents the trunk vp bracket >> that's right. we turn the
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potential shortlist into a bracket and why not and gave it to our favorite republican analysts to break down what could be a very consequential, if not the most most consequential. and this is very close election with me tonight, but will commentator for cnn republican strategist alice stewart, also republican strategist or michael singleton and cnn senior political commentator later scott jennings, they are all here. alice, you are up first. let's get to your particular bracket and it is interesting. you had it narrowed down to elise stefanik can tim scott, but you think the winter is to phonic tell me why a couple of things looking at her resume, she's the chairman of the house republican conference. she is republican and a very blue state, so she's got that going for, but we all know the most important thing for donald trump is loyalty. she has been so loyal to him. she was the first member of congress to endorse them. >> she led >> the defense team on his impeachment. she supported his efforts to stop this the certification of the election, and she has been stalwart for him and she also rose to fame
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recently, as you know, she led the hearing against three university presidents and the antisemitism efforts on campus. you really rose to political stardom there. but land one president to resign to actually. and here's the thing politically she, she will be able to appeal to the suburban women that donald trump desperately lost in 2020. so that goes well for her. she's a tremendous fundraiser. she raised $5 million in the last quarter and she is a bridge builder. she's able to work across the aisle. she's very well liked by her house colleagues and respected by those in the senate. and she's someone that can really fill the gap. we're donald trump needs help look, tim scott is awesome. all of these candidates are awesome. but in tim scott can also help reach across the aisle in terms of the african american vote. but i just go with a leash. her star is rising, but she's not going to get in the limelight of donald trump and that's a big factor interesting and of course, that's beating out greg abbott and tulsi gabbard,
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katie britt, kari lake, kristi noem, by renounce all on this bracket as well. she thinks at least a phonic is the winter. i want to bring you into this guy jannik is because you, you're pick was actually someone different. it is senator tim scott. trump has certainly been favorably speaking about scott during the primaries. so what do you think makes him have the edge in this bracket? >> well, tim scott makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons. but before i get into it, i need to talk to the selection committee about how these teams got into this tournament. >> make haley, nikki haley give me a break. laura coates, you've got a better chance of being vice president for donald trump and nikki haley ramaswamy and de santis to floridians donalds. what's donald trump could it do? moved to idaho. this is not going to happen. even though i know we're hearing about marco rubio so tonight, who's going to move, who's going to move? so i want to talk to the selection committee. i think there was doug, where's doug burgum tonight? nobody has played his cards any better than doug burgum and we got some people on here that i have no chance,
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but let me tell you about tim scott number one, he could be the president. number to everybody in the republican party likes tim scott, don't know anybody who doesn't like tim scott. and number three number three, african american men are souring on joe biden. tim scott's inspirational life story provides the perfect person for outreach to a key constituency that biden can ill afford to lose if i am in the championship game. and it's a close game and i got to put the ball in somebody's hands. i'm putting the rock in the hands of tim scott for vice president. he's going to make the game winning shot for donald trump. >> let's do it wow, that i mean, very compelling, very, very compelling. i think about that. so let me just i hate to have to go borrow mascot >> well going to have them in the actual race and the longer you stay, let's go to what your brackets that and i'm sure you probably take issue with the selection committee as well. we heard you, scott, i do. >> you said that >> i'm a little biased here.
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obviously haven't worked for dr. ben carson well, let me tell you why now, look, i agree with scott. nikki haley is a long shot, but when you think about the reality that about a third of republican voters have voted for nikki haley. they stick with her through multiple states, many of them are saying, we're not voting for donald trump were going to be the vote for joe biden over to sit on the couch or donald trump, nice to at least get some of those folks off the couch. laura into the polling booths for him, but i don't think he's going to choose nikki haley obviously does not like her because she didn't get out quick enough, so that leaves only one person. the good dr. ben carson. he's the only cabinet secretary that the former president is still maintains a very close relationship with. he's very loyal to the former president. he's not someone who seeks to but you donald trump, star, which is what i believe you would see what at least sephardic. i also think you will potentially see that with senator tim scott. he's going to do the job and do it well, you think about african-american men. this is someone who has been married to the same woman for 40 years, raised a beautiful family has a story from poverty to become
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one of the world's most renowned but neurosurgeons, to me, if you want someone who's different, who is unique, who's trustworthy, you're going with the good dr. ben carson >> i just silly enough. both you and scott jennings chose two menn that did not fare well? their own presidential bid. but yet you think they'll be the vice president, but i will say this laura dr. carson in 2016, we're the only presidential campaign to use serb donald trump's leads in the poll for about 60 days in the polls, you cannot discard that, you cannot, let's talk about somebody who is on the rise. we might surprise everyone it's senator marco rubio let's talk about maybe i don't know this, the cinderella story or not because it fairly an odd story to have met, but he is now in the race because tonight multiple source or tying saying that trump is seriously considering the florida center senator marco rubio for vice president, the surprise of some people close to trump. let's just remind folks of how trump treated senator marco rubio back in 2016. and then what rubio said, well, just last month it's
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rubio little mark, a little marco went a little markers, fuses crap about the size of my >> hands, which a big would you be interested in being vice president while we're both from the same state. so that probably not going to work that way, but ultimately he's got i believe he's going to win. he's going to be our next as president >> so what do you think trump sees possibly in rubio, if this is right? well, he certainly looks at his >> rising star ability and he'd certainly connects with people. >> i think >> rubio has played those quite well. i think he's played long ball here. he's looked at potentially understanding donald trump may be the nominee. you notice he did and endorsed nikki haley, who really saved him in 2016. he didn't endorse his home-state governor ron desantis in this race, and he hasn't really got behind a rick scott one best friends in the senate. so i think rubio's played this long ball while he's going to sit back and hopefully set himself up to be vp. but if i can say one thing, i love scotsman there was the asm about this. i hate that he doesn't like the
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selection committee, but i'll just say this. tim scott is great. if this were the actual ncw a bracket and we're actually playing basketball. tim scott would be my man. but we're talking about politics and i think donald trump's going to go for someone of female that will help the women. >> did i, ms >> i'm just confederate tim scott play ball with grant with what am i hearing? >> hello i'm mark and rubio so donald trump right now, the new york times cnn poll has donald trump at 46% to 40% were president biden won latino voters. he's recognizing that to potentially choose a latino as the first ever vice presidential candidate could turn out more latinos for trump over biden. >> scott jennings is probably right now pulling his hair out because you want the last word, but you know what you were so as we have just quiet phone late, are thanks. >> marco rubio, new arco rubio, classic republican point guard. he can move legislation. he can play defense. you put this man on tv. he will play defense for donald trump first-team all american, go into the top of the list, put them on the nikki haley again give me a break.
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accustoming.com. >> this situation with wolf blitzer tomorrow with six on cnn a book ban debate turns ugly when in nebraska state lawmaker is now facing calls to resign tonight after he inserted a fellow senators name as he was reading aloud from a novel's graphic depiction of rape the legislature was debating a bill that would ban obscene materials from schools.
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and republican senator steve halloran read a graphic passage from the book, lucky by alice sebald. now, halloran inserted a fellow lawmakers name into the passage, making it seem as if they were the victim that was grounded on the ground trying to search about the filth of my clothes. he kicked me and i crawled into a ball. i want to senator kavanaugh now, he didn't specify which kavanaugh because both michela kavanaugh and her brother, john, my cabinet at traveled, i >> actually served in the legislature, senator halloran later apologize on the senate floor for inserting his democratic colleague his name, but defended his decision to read the passage >> it was a blow by blow lesson on how to rape a woman that's where the outrage should be not in my pointing it out that it's in a book >> now an investigation has
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been launched into whether halloran violated workplace harassment policy. and tonight, a resolution was filed, taking to censure the senator now we've reached out center halloran for comment and have not heard back. but joining me now, are in nebraska is democratic senators makayla cabinet and her brothers, senator john cabinet. thank you both so much for being here. i mean, just hearing about what has happened i mean, stranger than fiction, very disturbing. i can't imagine what it was like to hear that name be sad and right into this passage. so senator michela kasin, begin with you here. we are learning tonight that there has been this central resolution that you in fact have brought four ford you and other lawmakers. the investigation is not enough legislatively so why is a censure the way to go based on this conduct >> well this happened publicly and an investigation would be handled privately. and it would be handled by a committee of three senators that would not be disclosed to the body or the
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public. and it's not guaranteed that they would even publish the results. so as our colleague senators julie slama said, actually earlier on cnn, this is just an attempt to slow walk and whitewash this whole situation. so i sought to do a resolution solution to censure him because that will be done in the public eye. and what he did his transgression happened in the public eye >> let me just ask both of you because as i said, when you brother and sister, you both heard a name, your own last name, be sad in this passage. i am just trying to go back to what that moment must to been like when you heard that. i can't imagine what my reaction would have been center michela cabinet. what was yours and i'll ask you the same question to your brother it was very unsettling and unnerving and the clip that has been played
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frequently is, of course, a very salacious clip where he is demanding a sex act be performed but he read more than just that and said, senator cabinet more than just one time. >> and >> it was unnerving and i still haven't quite come to terms with how i feel about it and how to process it >> for you, senator john cabinet, what was it like for you in that moment >> well i was shocked. we were in the middle of a heated debate and i actually was speaking directly after him and did not certainly know how to respond in that moment to what happened and tried to address it in some way and recentered the debate on the substance of the issues we were debating >> any of your colleagues, i know your colleagues now centered makayla kavanaugh,
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have on both sides of the aisle have come to your defense related to both of you are defense at this point and they're calling out halloran for the behavior it must be encouraging to see people across the spectrum condemning this and not had the turn to some partisan issue. but i do wonder, is it encouraging or do you have as you're trying to continue to process the statements that were made, center michela kavanaugh, that do you look at your colleagues differently now? >> i i appreciate very much my colleagues. on the other side of the aisle who has stood up and spoken out against this. i don't think that this is a partisan issue at all. i think that this is inherent in a toxic culture and where we think that anything goes when we're having a essentially a culture war debate on the floor. and so i'm very appreciative that other members of the body and other members on the other side of political structure spectrum have viewed
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being able to be in the white house. like i know, but in 1 million years thought out why has been out. i have got to meet the president and by thursday okay. like i just feel like whoa that he also loses as well. >> laura, >> i want to read a part though of attacks is your mother sent you after your visit to the west? it was so sweet and read this to it says i've come from being the woman with a bunch of kids living in a blue house with no real furniture and frazier to the class e is most beautiful and most talented rapper. this generation's mom, who's moved on up to a beautifully furnished house, get them glow that is so sweet talking about that message meant to you >> you may everything to me because we really be coming from absolute nothing like when i was living in a blue has what without my brother nobody knew what to know bad would've been in the white house it was a proud moment for my mom likes
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she called me so happy life. she was super excited and that's one of the reasons that abby more happy about malcolm smith, that anything goes because i found my mom and my data now, i'm a mom, so i had little kids, not anywhere near your age, but i'm telling you how sweet it is to have your mom be so proud of you. and you were >> invited to the white house of all places, of course. and you said, not everyone gets to go there. you were there for women's history month. tell me how the invitation came to be and what you did when you were there? >> so gotta hit me know that they had invited me, so i was the one he told me like i would like shout up when i get there like i say cool, i got to see a lot of the rooms. that people be taken a 50 xen like out of pq that presidents and like as out as ours is and it was so cool, like i did, i feel like out in candidate and onto them
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